FELLOW GENTILES, I HAVE A TASK FOR YOU! PAY, LEND ME YOUR EARS AND ALLOW ME TO EXPLAIN.
You may have noticed that I’m a Rapier fighter. If not, well, you know now.
Persona: The Basics
16C Spanish lady who moonlights as a hired killer. (But Shhh…. technically no one should know that)
This gives me reasons to fight, wear what I want, and use cool off hand weaponry.
I want to make a war fan that can open and close (yes I know they were traditionally made of iron…) It will be approx 10 - 12 inches long so that:
1. I can use it for what it is - a fan
2. So that its long enough for me to hold and deflect a rapier blade.
HAS ANYONE HEARD OF SOMEONE MAKING A WAR FAN OFF HAND PARRY DEVICE? ANYWHERE IN THE KNOWN WORLD.
If you could help me out I would be eternally grateful. (you get a free hit kekeke)
I would like to talk to said person or at least get photos so that I can see how others have done it… if no one has or has heard of it…. Well, this will certainly be an adventure. :)
If you would like to help, a PM or Reblog with your advice is appreciated. Thank you!
Basically my point of view boils down to: if you want to do a European martial art, do HEMA. If you want to reenact without actually having to reenact and want to bash someone with a sword, have fun and participate in the SCA. If you want to do both, do both and be aware of the groups as distinct. The two groups can certainly inform each other on what works and what doesn’t, but as it stands, I think the SCA (at large) and HEMA are largely incompatible.
But I want my cake and I want to eat it too! I love the SCA. I love the camping and the romance and the revelry and the re-creation (not reenactment - we get touchy about this and LARPing just like you do). Before the SCA I was largely a sedentary Hutt with more concern for my World of Warcraft character than myself. I had liked sword fighting but never really had the chance to fight people who legitimately knew what they were doing and didn’t want to play pew-pew-I-has-a-lightsaber.
And for a couple of years I was satisfied with the limited scope of historically relevant techniques (hereafter referred to as period techniques) because I was still tremendously unskilled, unmotivated, and frankly unable to do them. But now, after escaping the terror of lonely adolescence and a borderline addiction to online gaming and experiencing the thrill of fighting I found myself with a thirst needing slaking. There’s only so many times you can square off against a person and do a quick disengage and kill them with a thrust before you want something more.
From that revelation and desire for something more I found the period techniques and masters. George Silver and Capo Ferro and even Fabris (though I think he’s a teensy bit overrated). I’m not satisfied with one way of fighting or even one style of fighting. Why limit myself to something as narrow as only doing Italian rapier when German Longsword fighting and English broadsword are so damn interesting?!
But I love the re-creation. Camping with all my closest friends, fighting beside them in the massive wars we have, and even sitting through a hilarious court. I wouldn’t trade them for anything. However, you are correct that we have no claim to doing everything perfectly historical. Certainly not the fighting. But there’s hope for change and as I’ve always said you’ve got to keep your mind open to everyone’s ideas before deciding what’s right for yourself.
I want my cake and I want to eat it too. And if HEMA doesn’t have recreation and the SCA doesn’t have perfectly historical fighting then damnit it’s time to bring the actual, historical fighting to the SCA.
“Hardsuit fighting”? Oh, you mean stick jocks. “Rapier community”? Oh, you mean wire weenies.
Very true. Honestly, I’ve never heard it called “Hardsuit fighting,” they’ve always been “Armored,” but I wanted to reblog without commentary because other people have other terminology, and I want this blog to recognize ALL the awesome of the SCA!
There are two main categories of fighting in the Society for Creative Anachronism. The more public and popular is what we refer to as Hardsuit fighting. These are the knights in full armor who fight with rattan swords and shields. They’re great people. But they aren’t the only people who fight.
The other side of the fighting is the rapier community who wear modern fencing masks and fight with actual steel swords in order to recreate Renaissance and Late Middle Ages sword fighting through both manual and instructor teaching.
They. Are. Different. When you talk about SCA fighting you cannot only talk about the Hardsuit fighters (KNIGHTS). Just clarifying this for everyone who only thinks of the knights in armor when they think of SCA fighting.
They. Are. Different.